Jeremy Messersmith, an indie pop folk singer-songwriter, joins us this week on Dishing with Stephanie's Dish. Known for his quirky style and engaging performances, Jeremy shares insights from his musical journey and his newfound passion for baking during the pandemic.

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Stephanie Hansen (00:00.728)

Hello everybody and welcome to Dishing with Stephanie’s Dish, the podcast where we talk to cool people in the food space. They can be in any spaces. I’m here today with, as my friend Sarah calls you, my boy band crush, Jeremy Messersmith. You are my first musician on the program, friend.

Jeremy Messersmith (00:21.41)

Well, it’s good to good to be here.

Stephanie Hansen (00:21.544)

I’m trying to describe you - I mean people would say you’re like an indie pop folk singer songwriter, perhaps.

Jeremy Messersmith (00:35.436)

Yeah, I think that’s fair. it I describe myself as you I’m basically just another white guy with an acoustic guitar, is mostly what I do. I think what I end up writing to me just seems like very normal songs, but people do describe it as a quirky, let’s say. Yeah, yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (00:51.85)

Yeah. There is kind of a and I hope you take this as a compliment. There is sort of like a a little bit of a Ben Folds vibe. But

Jeremy Messersmith (01:02.526)

yeah. I yeah, I I definitely take that. Yeah, I take that as a as a high compliment. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (01:09.066)

The first time I think I became aware of you was probably at a New Standards holiday show. And it might have been, well, I honestly, it could have been like 15 years ago that was the first time. And you came out, and since then you’ve appeared many times, sometimes with the ukulele, sometimes just singing fantastical, crazy songs.

Jeremy Messersmith (01:16.718)

Yeah.

Jeremy Messersmith (01:37.175)

Yeah. Yeah. That’s true. The New Standards have been quite generous over the years in letting me crash their their holiday show and sometimes it’s a song that I pitch for them and sometimes they want me to to come in and sing a song and I I try to we generally try to shake it up and do something that’s f fairly funny and provocative maybe at the same time.

Stephanie Hansen (01:59.584)

Well, and I have to say you have also blown up in my mind in the food space a little bit here because you seem to like have made a decision about something. And tell me if you think I’m right. I feel like, okay, COVID was just a hellish time, right? And particularly horrible for musicians because you couldn’t be out on the road doing what you do.

And I think it’s fair to say most musicians that tour at all were just going crazy. And you all seem to have like created some self-discovery through the social media channels. And those social media channels for a lot of musicians are like a blessing and a curse at the same time because you need them to sell records. But also many musicians are actually kind of can be introverted and a little quirky and.

So putting yourself out there in that way feels so weird. But I feel like I don’t know, like in the last year, have you made a concerted effort to just like throw caution to the wind and get out there?

Jeremy Messersmith (03:11.146)

Yes, yes I have. And it’s mostly just because I have a a new record out, released in in April. It’s called Fox Coyote and I just play I play all kinds of little games with myself and I realize that Part of my job as a musician, if I care about my my art, my craft, is I need to just go where people are. And that’s something I’ve always tried to do in my career. And if that is social media, then so be it. I will I will pop on there. And so back in April I I had a little challenge with myself and it was I’m going to make like, you know, an Instagram reel every day for like a month or something. And then if if I do that, then I’m gonna go take myself out to eat at a very nice restaurant.

You know, like that was my little reward to myself. And it was challenging because, you know, how much of yourself do you really want to share with people? And I found that what was most comfortable to me was usually things based around kind of projects. either, here’s what I was thinking, putting together an outfit for today. And it’s just stuff I would be doing anyway, but just like sharing it with folks. And a lot of that ended up being baking, which is something that started back during the pandemic for me, really. I I’ve always done a little bit of cooking and and been handy around the kitchen, but but during the pandemic we all had kind of different stabs at at sanity, let’s say. And I s for me it was I started baking my way through Sarah Kiefer’s book One Hundred Cookies, and I just baked cookies and I made little videos for for all of them and

Had a great time doing that. And it made me very, very popular with my neighbors because I was baking more cookies than any one person could could reasonably eat. And it was just a very fun, fun project. And I’ve still kind of continued it to this day. I still I don’t do them as often, but I usually do a bake about once a week, maybe maybe twice a week, sometimes depending on the audience, and yeah, have a great time.

Stephanie Hansen (05:08.938)

It’s also Sarah Kiefer was one of the first guests on my show, Taste Buds, in the first year. And I love to tell this story because we went to her house. And, you know, Sarah is extremely successful, but also kind of shy. And we went to record at her house. And we were in this really cool mid-century modern kitchen. And she had pink appliances and Everything was so decked out. And then at some point she was like, I have to get something across the street. And I was like, wait a second, is this a stunt house? And indeed, it is. She has like a whole baking studio. They bought a house. Her her father-in-law lives in the first level. So I mean it’s

Jeremy Messersmith (05:48.078)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Jeremy Messersmith (06:01.518)

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (06:03.208)

A multi generational situation, but I was like, this is the most amazing thing ever. She has a stunthouse.

Jeremy Messersmith (06:08.929)

God. I love that. I love that. That is that is fantastic. I did not know that. I’ve not seen the stunthouse. I’ve not seen it.

Stephanie Hansen (06:17.536)

It’s pretty cool. And her books, I mean, the whole banging of the pan really hard for chocolate chip cookies. I feel like we’ve now long since attributed it to Sarah. She was one of the first pan bangers. And just her technique is really delicious with cookies. Where I saw you

Jeremy Messersmith (06:29.655)

Yeah. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (06:38.164)

was you were involved with my friend Stephanie March, my radio partner. She did a fundraising event for her salt cure fund and you made lemon bars. Tell me about your lemon bars.

Sure. well I went on a bit of a lemon bar quest because you know, it was me contributing some bars to this fundraiser, but you know, I’m

I’m just a musician guy. Like I don’t I’m not I’m not a professional chef. I’ve never written a cookbook. I’ve never even developed a recipe. So but I do like to be fairly diligent in what I sign up to do. So I knew I wanted to do lemon bars because they’re just my favorite. They’re just in any time of year. Just a lemon bar is is great. And so I had about I th I wanna say a couple months or six weeks before I had to bake the bars. So I just made so many lemon bars and I combed the internet for recipes for lemon bars and tried

just about every kind of lemon bar that I could get my hands on before I kinda kind of found what to me what I want in a lemon bar, which is like one with that’s got like kind of a like a nice kind of custard like on the like, you know, it’s a little gooey. And I want it to be s so tart and tingly that I can I can barely eat it. You know? Like I want I want all of that. So I I think one of my favorites was was yeah bare barefoot Contessa I ended up loving.

The in a garden recipe is is probably close to one of my faves, but there are a bunch of other ones too, and now it’s turned into a thing where something I’ve also done for a lot of years is I play a lot of house shows, backyard shows, and porch, porch concerts, and I would say about 70 to 70 80 percent of them are also potlucks because I am as my manager says, I’m very food.

Focused or food oriented. It’s like unless unless there are like snacks there, I’m not really interested in going to whatever event there is. It’s really, it’s really embarrassing. It’s kind of shameful to admit, but that’s like the first thing I’m like, yeah, there’s people just probably cool. Let’s go look at the spread. let’s go, you know, let’s get some food. and so people have started to bring all sorts of lemon bars to the shows, which

I feel like I’m just running a huge scam. Basically, I show up to play some songs and people just arrive with with just cookies and lemon bars and I’m like, This I yeah, I I have no complaints as to the trajectory of my life. It’s been it’s been a really great summer, this one especially.

Stephanie Hansen (09:14.942)

It’s so great. okay, more reasons why I know you’re my person. Because Ina Garten is the one that you leveled up on and you sat sat there. She tests her recipes like 30 times for each recipe, and then she gives them to another group of recipe testers. You know, I am sadly as a Midwest home cook, also not a chef. I mean, if I can get a recipe made twice.

before I’m on to the next one because I’m just sort of like a squirrel with, you know, mental things going through my brain all the time and I’m producing so much content. She’s just like, she’s the master. also you mentioned that when you did your TikToks or your excuse me, your reels, we’ll not call them TikToks, every day for March, that you were going to treat yourself at a nice restaurant. I want to know where you went.

Jeremy Messersmith (10:38.291)

well, I I have a I have a favorite and I just I just god I got I just got goosebumps thinking about it because I I like the place so much. And it’s funny because I’ve only been there I think twice. And so it’s like I have to kind of save it for special things. But it’s but it’s of course Muriel over in over in St. Paul, which is if you don’t know it, is like it’s like the best

Stephanie Hansen (10:27.51)

Sure.

Jeremy Messersmith (10:38.291)

home cooked food that you’ll that you’ll have. It’s like done very well in not a pretentious way and lots of little touches like you’re kind of eating off of these very kind of like grandma ish plates and things and I just I just love it and it’s so cute and and cozy and yeah yeah that’s my that’s my spot

Stephanie Hansen (10:58.356)

It’s you’re also my person because of that, Jeremy, because I have said for probably the last five years, I feel like she was one of the most underrated chefs that we had in the Twin Cities because she’s very regular, she’s very unassuming, she’s got that Midwestern ethos of just kind of doing the work and not necessarily talking about it as much. But when you eat her pie, I mean, and when she talks to you about

Jeremy Messersmith (11:19.447)

Yes. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (11:28.108)

Dassel Cokato and all the makers there and the, you know, hand picked juniper berries that, you know, she knows from Farmer Jeff and then goes into a whole screed about Farmer Jeff and it it’s like there’s just nothing like it. And I’m so glad that people are starting to see her as a real talent, but also she’s getting some James Beard recognition and people are just really excited about her. So yes.

that is on my list of fancy fun places.

Jeremy Messersmith (12:01.983)

It’s just it’s a wonderful place and she’s also a great watercolor artist as well. I had a fri had a friend go to a a watercolor class that she was teaching there and I almost went and then I was very glad I didn’t when I saw like just the level that everyone was already at. I’m terrible at visual arts, so I like, I’m so glad I did not go to this. So glad. yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (12:21.298)

I’m trying to become a tea towel embroiderer, and I’ve taken a couple of classes, and it’s just not going well. You know, there’s just things that you want to do, but maybe you’re not great at. I also have this vision that I need to be discovering and throwing pottery so that I can make my own dishes for the show. So I asked a potter friend, and I was like, so like.

I don’t know if I signed up for like four classes. Do you think I could get good enough to make dishes for my show? And he was like, Well, if you’re an expert in the field, sure. He was like, Yeah, you’re he’s like, you’re better off just paying a potter to meet with you and make the dishes you want than thinking you’re gonna do it yourself.

Jeremy Messersmith (13:09.706)

Yeah. it is very fun. And I am a big proponent of really any art that you have an interest in doing, you should do because n not everything needs to be good. Like art is also part of how it changes us and especially pottery, which I I love and I’m terrible at. Terrible. But you know, you don’t even need a wheel. You can just do like pinch pots and they are just so gratifying. And something else I did during the pandemic was making pinch pots, one a pinch pot every day.

just to kind of help me, you know, make sense of the time and what was going on. And that was also very, very fun. And then I I I actually I fired a bunch of it and then I threw a a terrible pottery party and then made everyone leave with a piece of my just horrific ceramic work, which was is still still very fun. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (13:57.325)

This is great and a lemon bar probably.

Jeremy Messersmith (14:00.427)

Yeah. I I hadn’t gone on to the l I hadn’t discovered my lemon bar journey yet, but but they certainly left with some cookies for sure.

Stephanie Hansen (14:07.98)

You know what I love about you is outside of your musical artistry, obviously, and I I am still coming around to this idea that what I probably am is an entrepreneur and a creator. Cause I’ve had a number of businesses. I this is like my sixth career being in food. And I’m sensing kind of I’m hearing some of these vibes from you too about like

There’s this creativity that’s in you that you have to get out and it comes out in all these weird ways. And I was I’m always a little bit embarrassed about it. It’s like, cause I don’t see myself as really good at anything. I’m just trying lots of things and just kind of crazy and weird and fun. That does that like describe what it feels like to be a musician?

Jeremy Messersmith (14:56.01)

Yeah, I I think it does. Most musicians that I know, it it’s not like this is our, you know, one thing. Like we you know, we do all kinds of creative work and music is just one part of it. I was just watching an interview where David Bowie was talking about how he did not think of himself as a particularly original thinker.

But he was a great synthesizer of like other people’s ideas and things. So I think musicians or at least songwriters, like we’re you know you’re creating something from nothing and to do that you kinda have to

Tap into whatever you know kind of woo-woo collective unconsciousness thing you have where creativity comes from. And of course that can express itself in many forms. Of course, the most fun thing too is when you are doing something that feels like work, maybe you’re even writing a song that feels a little like work, and then then all of your little side hustles become way more fun to do. And all of a sudden it’s like, now I’m doing this absolutely you know illicit thing I should not be doing by making a pinch pot instead of writing a

song this morning and that feels great. So I think for a lot of us and I I wouldn’t speak for for you or for anyone else, but at least for me, the the ADHD runs fairly strong and I try to just embrace it wherever I can I can follow it.

Stephanie Hansen (16:15.102)

my husband’s a writer and I write cookbooks and the publishing industry has really gone through some kind of horrific times, not unlike the music business too. Do you this is a pretty personal question, but do you like worry about making money?

Jeremy Messersmith (16:34.572)

no, not really. mostly because I’ve I’ve never really minded being poor.

And there’s a way to be poor but be very rich in at least to me the things that matter, such as you know, walking into someone’s backyard where some a person likes you enough to invite you to their home to have you play for their friends, and there is a magnificent spread of food on the table. That’s really yeah, that’s really all I all all I want. So I don’t worry about it too much. Now, granted that is that is a luxury and I’ve I’ve worked hard over the years to be able

to to have enough where I don’t have to worry about it too much anymore. But that’s not really ever my my focus on why I do things. It’s always like, you know what would be cool would be if and then we kinda we kinda try to start from there. And monetization if there is a way to do it comes comes far too late for a lot of the a lot of the stuff that I like to do.

Stephanie Hansen (17:32.311)

Well, and I I asked that because I think a lot of people and it is a luxury, right? Like you have to have money to have I think one study that came out was like you need to make at the time it was sixty eight thousand dollars a year in order to have what they consider the happiness quotient, meaning, you know, you’ve got your basic needs met and then from there I I would imagine that probably has gone up in the last five years. But you know, for me

The money was always about the value and the worth of the work, not the money itself. And I didn’t learn that till later. And now I’m really right trying to give up that that you need to make money to have something be fun or worthwhile. And it’s it’s it’s hard. It’s a rewiring of my brain that I’m still working through.

Jeremy Messersmith (18:08.393)

It’s it’s a little bit hard. I I think I saw a quote one time, I wanna say it’s by Andy Warhol, that it it’s hard to judge the value of artistic work, when you live in America because and this is the this is the quote that I’m paraphrasing, Americans

show their love by by what they buy. That’s how like Americans know how to, you know, say, I like this or I like this, I love you is I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna you know, I’m gonna buy the band T shirt. I don’t know how many band T shirts I bought that, you know, very much no longer fit anymore, but I still keep around and still paid for because I love that band and I want that money to go money to go to them.

Stephanie Hansen (19:05.377)

when we talk about your records, is you do you have ten?

Jeremy Messersmith (19:14.149)

I don’t know actually. That I mean I’ve got quite a few now. Yeah, that that that might be right actually.

Stephanie Hansen (19:19.592)

One of my favorite visual records just to look at, and I have it in my cabin, so I’m always in this really great frame of mine when I play it, is the late stage capitalism record. I love the graphic design of it. I love the color. The record itself is colored.

Jeremy Messersmith (19:38.28)

I have to do a quick pitch on this. that album artwork and for my ukulele album was done by my friend Phil Jones, who who is now does a bunch of work for Meowwolf, who designs all of their fake products at the Omega Mart in Las Vegas. And he himself is also is also a baker. we’ve been like potluck friends for a number of years and he

he only cooks vintage recipes like from like Better Homes and Gardens magazine from like from like the fifties and sixties. So half the time you’re like, I don’t know if this is good or this is clearly from another time. I don’t know how taste buds have evolved, but he is is also a creative who does all kinds of stuff, but is also a great baker.

Stephanie Hansen (20:14.772)

Yeah, for sure.

Stephanie Hansen (20:29.856)

It is Megamart like a store, but also kind of like a gallery in the arts district?

Mega Mart well is like a it’s a Meowolf installation in Vegas and it’s kind of like a an interdimensional interdimensional grocery store slash s sensory I I I I I’m not even using good words to describe it. It’s an experience, let’s let’s say. but all of the the fake products there made me made me laugh so hard. It’s like it’s like if the onion opened up a a a grocery store.

Stephanie Hansen (20:46.186)

It’s the grocery store. Yes, I’ve been there. Yeah

Yeah. It’s kind of like the weird Prada installation that they had in Marfa, Texas for a while. Just something unexpected and something weird in a weird place. And I love Vegas. and I love Vegas for I I very rarely gamble. I love it for like all the people it attracts and the artistry and the just weird collaboration of people that end up in this just godforsaken hot desert.

Jeremy Messersmith (21:35.063)

I have only recently begun spending some time in Vegas, and my first time there, it took two days for just the shock of how this place exists, and this needs to be returned to the desert, clearly. You know, what what hubris of man has led to this has led to this city. And then and then I was kinda like, it is it is a bit of okay, I I think I kind of like that attitude a l a little bit. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (22:02.506)

Yeah, it is a it’s a place for dreamers and making strange things happen. And I I don’t know. I’ve always liked it because of that. And I I don’t even like the desert. I don’t like places like Arizona. My husband’s obsessed with Utah. And you know, hiking’s fine, but when it’s a hundred and ten and you see scorpions and stuff that’s trying to kill you, I’m just like, no, thank you. I’m going back to Ely.

Well, this has been this has been super fun. I wanna encourage and promote your reels and your putting yourself out there because the number one thing that I read about social media is that people just they don’t do it. They don’t try. They they just don’t pick up their phone, they’re anxious, they’re scared, they don’t wanna look stupid. And I find you very entertaining and I was glad to see you working with the current this summer.

Jeremy Messersmith (22:37.276)

thanks.

Stephanie Hansen (22:58.644)

I every state fair food being a ten out of ten, I might have to take issue with, but you know.

Jeremy Messersmith (23:07.081)

Yeah, I apparently any food that I’m putting in my mouth is a ten out of ten. Well, I’m like I’m like Winnie the Pooh. No, I yeah, I’m like Winnie the Pooh when it comes to like rating foods. the best, you know, day is well, today, obviously. Yeah, that’s the the only day we ever have. So I’m like that with State Fair Food. And that was a a lot of fun. I was also very pleased that Minnesotans were so generous with their with their sweet Martha’s cookies. I knew I knew they would be. I knew they would be. But

Stephanie Hansen (23:33.409)

Yeah, you pretty much can walk up to anyone at the fair and ask them for anything they’re eating. I’ve done this for numerous television shows and just s sometimes you just sit down and you want to share so that you know you can have a taste of the new fair food and not have to wait in line. My friend Stephanie March is a known butter. She does not stand in line. She buds. And she sh she’s the butter of the highest order.

Jeremy Messersmith (23:58.491)

She really wow. I I could never and if I go back and do that, I’m gonna yeah, that makes me nervous to think about and if I go back next year I realize that’s what I’m gonna have to do. I’m gonna have to ask people if I can if I can butt in line. my god that’s whew

Stephanie Hansen (24:04.98)

Same, I’m sweating.

Just bring her along as your sidekick. And she she just does it too, where like people don’t even really know she’s doing it. She’s kind of little and she just sort of is all of a sudden there and I’m in the back, just waiting at the end of the line, and she’ll bring me the thing and be like, You don’t have to wait. I got it. It’s right here. She’s hilarious.

Jeremy Messersmith (24:39.346)

I d I I could never. I have to it’s it’s it’s it’s just for me, it just would be terrible for optics, you know. I must I must wait in every line. I can’t be I can’t be do I’m l I’m like a neighborhood singer songwriter. I can’t be like d hey, let me just butt in line. No, I could I I couldn’t do it. Couldn’t do it.

Stephanie Hansen (24:54.334)

Yeah. Hilarious. what do you have coming up? Or talk a little bit more about Fox Coyote, which is the record you’re promoting, so we can sell some records for you, or shows, or whatever you’d like to promote.

Jeremy Messersmith (25:06.452)

Sure. Well I have a new album out called Fox Coyote and it’s eleven

songs that I would say are a little bit quirky, a little bit a little bit funny. And I think my my next shows that I have coming up, I have a slew of All Hollows Eve Halloween shows. October twenty-third, twenty-fourth at the Fitzgerald Theater, and then on October thirtieth at the Sheldon Theater in Red Wing. And we try to outdo ourselves every year with it. I think of it as kind of like like a much more knockoff budget, new standards holiday show, but but

Stephanie Hansen (25:40.927)

Yeah, like a variety show.

Jeremy Messersmith (25:41.202)

Halloween. Yeah, it’s like a variety show, loads of secret guests. last year we had a whole section with that was just like we did ska, which was which was very fun. This year we have kind of a big surprise. I can’t say anything about it really, but it’s gonna involve a lot of people and it’s gonna be a a very good time. So I think I think those are my my things coming up. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (26:04.439)

That’s so fun. Okay, I’m gonna just there’s you know how you put things out in the universe and then either intention or however just works and they happen. I have this idea and I’m gonna tell it to you that I wanna do a variety show. Like some skits, some cooking, some music.

Jeremy Messersmith (26:10.343)

Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (26:30.755)

Funny costumes, almost like a new standards holiday show, but with food as the primary driver. And like, you know how they have like those Korean cooking shows where they’re with the knives and they’re tossing things and it’s very visual. And then I just imagine like dancing bananas coming down the row. And like what, like, I don’t know, people in the audience can, we can like

Jeremy Messersmith (26:36.358)

Yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay.

Stephanie Hansen (26:58.773)

have them come up and give them secret ingredients and they have to make things on the spot. I just feel like this could really be this bringing the music, the food, the costuming, the color, because so many community things are around food and just bringing it into the Zeitgeist, probably at the Parkway theater. I saw Anna Geyser perform last holiday season and I was like, yes. And I can’t really sing or dance or do anything other than make funny bits and maybe make other people look funny. I don’t know, but I could see it.

Jeremy Messersmith (27:32.542)

Yeah, yeah. yes.

I think that can totally happen and now my brain is spinning off in that direction. I think you basically kinda described what might be fun would be like kind of like Midwest Iron Chef the musical. And you could you could bring in all kinds of like improv performers to improv songs as perhaps different local celebrity chefs are concocting things, you know, and then, you know, the audience or will will judge it. I mean th there’s so many so many ways you c Yes, yes.

Stephanie Hansen (27:46.616)

Yes.

Yeah, like a potluck party too, but the potluck is the music as well as the food and you know, like everyone’s got weird little instruments. Like I just really feel this vibe. So

Jeremy Messersmith (28:07.962)

Yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Communal cooking and com communal cooking and communal singing, to be honest, are the absolute two best human activities. Okay, I’ll throw in dancing as well, but if there’s any kind of like body movement as well. If there’s movement, there’s music and there’s food, like that’s it. That’s life. That’s that’s living that’s what I want to do.

Stephanie Hansen (28:29.217)

Yeah. All right. Well, you are the good for good person. I’ve tested this theory. Okay. Erin Schwab, who’s a performer and a singer. I’ve I’ve thrown this out with her. And then my other friend, Erin, who she’s an actress. So you’re the third person, but it’s coalescing. I don’t know how I’m gonna put it together, but I just have this idea that it could be super fun. And what’s more Midwestern than like potluck, casserole, and a bunch of people hanging around singing?

Jeremy Messersmith (28:40.65)

Okay.

yeah. yeah. incredible. Incredible. Yeah. that is so my wheelhouse that yes, of course, I’m I’m I’m in whatever you need. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (29:06.027)

Okay, let’s let’s get something together. Thank you so much for being a guest. You’re my first musician. I’ve always been kind of intimidated to ask anybody that’s not food people. And it was great. We had a lot in common, a lot to talk about and super fun.

Jeremy Messersmith (29:14.438)

sure. yeah. We sure did. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for reaching out. Yeah.

Stephanie Hansen (29:22.507)

Yeah, I also want people to get your record because it’s amazing and get tickets to your shows. I am gonna come to the October show. I think I’d heard about it, but I just never followed through. So I’m gonna do that and we’ll talk soon. Okay, thanks.

Jeremy Messersmith (29:30.394)

great.

Yeah. Cool. Sounds good. Thanks. Thanks Stephanie. Bye.



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