What happens when Superman decides saving the world isn't enough and tries to fix it instead? Case and Jmike are joined by Austin Funk to revisit Stormwatch: Change or Die, Warren Ellis's three-part story about the High, a blatant Superman analogue with a plan to eliminate scarcity, tear down old systems, and build a better world. They dig into the story's big ideas, its messy execution, and the tragedy of watching genuinely heroic people wind up on opposite sides of a fight over who gets to decide what "better" looks like.
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Men of Steel Full Episode
Originally aired: September 25, 2026
Edited by Sophia Ricciardi
Scored by Gen Moonen
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⏱️ Chapters
00:51 Welcome and Guest Intro
02:03 Warren Ellis and Revisiting the Work
06:12 Why Change or Die Is Worth Discussing
06:53 First Impressions of the Arc
08:01 Jack Hawksmoor and the Power of Cities
09:06 Jmike's First Read
11:05 Too Many Characters?
12:23 Jmike Recaps Change or Die
14:49 The High's Plan for Utopia
16:31 The Assassination Attempt on Jenny Sparks
18:35 Introducing Blind
19:28 Henry Bendix and Stormwatch
21:56 The High Returns
22:37 Meet Stormwatch Prime
24:52 The High as Golden Age Superman
25:27 The Doctor
26:19 Wright and the Justice League Analogues
27:03 Malcolm King Joins the Changers
29:22 Cracks in the High's Plan
31:49 Phase One Begins
32:43 The Engineer Ends Scarcity
35:30 Smoke, Eidolon, and the Changers
37:02 Rose Tattoo's Solution
37:21 Blind Tortures Malcolm
38:27 The High Confronts the United Nations
41:12 Stormwatch vs. the High
43:03 The High Shows What Superman Powers Can Do
44:28 Winter vs. the High
48:32 Jenny Discovers Her Old Friend Is Back
49:17 The Changers Begin Reshaping the World
51:02 The High Discovers What Blind Did
52:04 Bendix Finds the Changers' Base
54:26 Issue 50: The Kill Mission
55:30 Bendix Sizes Up Stormwatch
57:26 The High Broadcasts His Utopia
58:28 Change on Your Own Terms
59:07 Wish Reveals Her Agenda
01:00:30 Smoke Celebrates the End of Killing
01:03:26 Stormwatch Infiltrates the Base
01:04:13 Refusing to Kill
01:05:42 Jenny Sparks Confronts Bendix
01:06:14 Rose Tattoo Kills the Eidolon
01:08:06 Battalion Joins the Fight
01:09:40 Jenny and the High's Golden Age History
01:12:16 Heroes Fighting Heroes
01:13:04 Winter Offers the Changers a Way Out
01:14:38 Battalion Confronts Wish
01:16:11 Wish Gets Taken Off the Board
01:17:05 The Truth About Rose Tattoo
01:17:55 Bendix Completely Unravels
01:20:18 Jenny Sparks vs. Bendix
01:21:43 How Do You Kill the Dead?
01:22:57 The High Learns the Truth About Blind
01:24:30 Stormwatch's Prisoners Die
01:25:47 Jenny Takes Down Bendix
01:26:15 The Battle Turns Deadly
01:27:30 The Changers Fall
01:28:11 The High Heads for Skywatch
01:28:43 People Only Want Change on Their Terms
01:31:17 The Death of the High
01:32:34 What Change or Die Is Trying to Say
01:34:33 Final Thoughts on the Arc
01:37:54 Good Ideas, Limited Execution
01:39:02 The Legacy of Stormwatch
01:40:36 Austin's Plugs
01:43:03 Jmike's Plugs
01:43:32 Case's Plugs
01:44:55 Patreon Shout-Out
01:45:56 Rolling With Difficulty
01:46:05 Sign-Off
01:46:20 Credits
01:46:40 Digging for Kryptonite Promo
