In this episode, we dive deep into the evolving landscape of industrial AI—from the fierce competition on model leaderboards to the real-world impact of open versus closed AI systems. We question whether it’s necessary to follow every new model or if specialization is the future, using examples from industrial time series and the latest in material science. Alongside our guest Alexander Hammer from Dunia, we explore how AI and autonomous labs are accelerating the discovery of next-generation materials, bridging the gap between simulation and reality. As we reflect on what it means to 'think' in AI—beyond just language or images—we challenge listeners to consider the missing modalities shaping tomorrow’s technology. Join us for insightful stories, candid debates, and a glimpse into the frontier where AI meets the physical world.

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