Jimmy and James talk about Pedro Gomez behind his back. The duo discuss their recent conversation with Pedro Gomez, the Global Brand Ambassador for Drew Estate. From Pedro's humble beginnings as a saddle maker in Nicaragua, to his time in Iowa as a college student, to how he worked his way up through the factory the pair discuss how this has led to Pedro being one of the most positive people in the industry. They also talk about Pedro's mentor, his uncle for whom he was named after, and how his answer differed from others in the industry when asked the same question. This eventually led to a discussion of "Is Drew Estate boutique?" and "What is boutique?" and "Does it even matter?"
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