The Mountain Goats song ‘San Bernadino’ is feeling quite relevant in Josie’s pregnancy, so it’s only right that guest John Darnielle joins to offer his best pieces of advice.


This episode is sponsored by Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls the Podcast (www.rebelgirls.co/podcast) and Pact (www.wearpact.com code: JOSIEANDJOHNNY).


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