Anika and Liz are thrown into a Klingon prison, where they are absolutely choosing Lorca's pain. But no one is having a worse day than that poor innocent tardigrade! 

We're discussing episode five of Star Trek: Discovery's first season, including: 

  • This is the worst Saru episode of the entire series. It's rough, man
  • Overthinking the "five best captains" list
  • For an awful moment, we start to ask dangerous questions like "how many starships does Starfleet have?"
  • This episode is a card trick: your attention is on Harry Mudd, but really it's introducing Ash Tyler
  • Liz has normal and rational feelings about the historical Buran
  • We play a fun game called "which other captains would leave Mudd in the Klingon prison" (Archer)
  • Introducing Ash means we have to talk about Ash, L'Rell and the misguided sexual assault subplot
  • Antimatter Pod: We aren't really into m/m ships Also Antimatter Pod: We will die for Lorca/Tyler
  • Our hot take: Saru did NOT deserve that telescope, this is NOT a sweet scene to be immortalised as a Hallmark ornament, this is REWARDING his BAD BEHAVIOUR

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