Jenny and Judith get together this week not long after Judith managed her charity run which she did brilliantly and didn't stop once!


Jenny has had a bonkers weekend full of art and a Q&A in a Spiegeltent which took someone out of a mayonnaise workshop and the pair had a brief meeting in a VERY hot London about their new project!


All this plus some great summer book recommendations!


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