Hamza Abu Howidy returns for another Conflicted Conversation. Last time he appeared, he told us his personal story of growing up in Hamas-ruled Gaza, how he was imprisoned and tortured by Hamas for speaking out against their oppression, and how he entered into exile in Germany just before the 7 October attacks changed everything.
This time he switches from Gaza to the West Bank, telling Thomas all about the other side of Palestine — a side which goes overlooked, but which is increasingly becoming a zone of almost unbearable conflict.
Hamza and Thomas discuss:
Settler violence as settler terrorism
How Israeli settlements undermine the Oslo process
Settlement expansion as a strategy to prevent a Palestinian state
The shift from a two-state ideal to a one-state reality
The Hardal movement and Smotrich’s political world
The Hilltop Youth: origins, ideology and violence
The dual legal system in the West Bank
The Yehuda Shmuel Sherman incident and the revenge attacks that followed
E1 and the threat to a viable Palestinian state
The West Bank economy after 7 October
Palestinian municipal and national elections
Israeli elections and the lack of hope for political change
Israel’s post-7 October security doctrine
The Board of Peace and the problem of Hamas disarmament
Arab disillusionment with resistance ideology
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