Episode 499 is one of the most personal episodes in the show's history. As From Betrayal to Breakthrough approaches its milestone and final 500th episode, Dr. Debi Silber gathers a few of her certified PBT coaches and practitioners — the people who took The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ and carried it into their own practices, retreats, and communities around the world — for a heartfelt celebration of everything that's been built together. 

Dr. Debi opens with the origin story: after her own betrayal in 2015, she couldn't find a book, a course, or a mentor to guide her through it, so she enrolled in a PhD program to study betrayal at the deepest level. That research led to the discovery of Post Betrayal Syndrome® (PBS®) and The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™, which became the foundation of the PBT Institute and, eventually, the PBT® Certification Program. 

In this episode, you'll hear directly from the coaches and practitioners who built their own healing — and now their careers — on that foundation: 

  • Coach Peggy — the PBT Institute's original lead coach, on six years of holding space for members' healing and transformation. 

  • Coach Joni — who found the show after seeing Dr. Debi's TEDx talk, on the calming presence she now brings to clients moving through stage two, and how she blends coaching with her yoga background. 

  • Coach Vanessa — a certified coach and Facebook community host, on discovering the podcast during a 3 a.m. search for answers and going on to be named Best Relationship Coach in Westchester County and a 2026 People's Choice Award nominee. 

  • Coach Lisa — who specializes in grief work within betrayal recovery, on the global reach the certification has given her practice, coaching clients from Germany to Africa. 

  • Practitioner Jay — on discovering unhealed childhood betrayal trauma through his own healing work, and now coaching individuals and couples in the earliest, hardest days after disclosure. 

  • Practitioner Beth — on building a business around a companion framework for the partner who caused the betrayal, and expanding her work to help entire families heal. 

  • Steph ("Mama Love") — the PBT community's engagement manager since day one, on showing up for members with encouragement, presence, and community. 

Each coach shares how they found the PBT Institute, what The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ gave them personally, and what they now want anyone in the earliest, darkest days after betrayal to know: healing is possible, you don't have to do it alone, and there is proven, predictable support waiting on the other side. 

Where to find the coaches and practitioners featured in this episode 

A few moments worth pulling as quotes 

  • "Though it happened to you, it wasn't about you." — Dr. Debi Silber 

  • "It wasn't my job to learn how to trust him — it was his job to earn my trust back." — Beth 

  • "Hard now, easy later. Take your pick — you get to choose." — Dr. Debi Silber 

  • "Dare to reach your hand out into the darkness to pull another hand into the light." — Norm Rice, shared by Steph 

  • "Betrayal is beyond cultures, beyond color, beyond borders." — Coach Lisa 

Next up: Episode 500, the final episode of From Betrayal to Breakthrough, where Dr. Debi shares what's next as she begins Living the Stage 5 Life. 

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