Join Steve Cuss and author Ellen Vaughn, who once rode a rusty, cracked-fuselage Russian helicopter across Cambodia—and arrived to hear children from a local church orphanage singing “This Is the Day” in English, as they unpack stories from God’s Expansive Kingdom. Ellen’s chat with Steve captures the stories behind her book What Jesus Started: churches thriving in places marked by poverty, persecution, and violence. Vaughn reflects on what she learned from believers who don’t expect life to be easy, including the astonishing freedom of a Rwandan pastor who forgave the neighbor who killed members of his family. She also talks candidly about her husband Lee’s decade-long battle with brain cancer, Chuck Colson’s publishing integrity, and why the church must remain independent of political power.More from Ellen Vaughn:

Ellen Vaughn’s What Jesus Started: The World-Changing Power of the Local Church

More about C.S. Lewis Institute 

More about The Killing Fields

Chuck Colson’s Prison Fellowship

Charles Colson with Ellen Santilli Vaughn’s The Body

Episode Resources:

More about Ellen Vaughn

Ellen Vaughn’s Being Elisabeth Elliot: The Authorized Biography: Elisabeth’s Later Years

Ellen Vaughn’s Becoming Elisabeth Elliot

Scripture Referenced:

Genesis 28:16 (ESV)

John 1:5 (ESV)

Psalm 118:24 (ESV)

Philippians 1:21 (ESV)

2 Corinthians 1:3–4 (ESV)

John 16:33 (ESV)

2 Corinthians 5:7 (ESV)

Isaiah 45:7 (ESV)

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