We just finished an hour with Cathy Watson Genna, and our brains are still buzzing. That's how it always goes with Cathy — she has this gift for showing you how everything connects. The web of infant assessment can feel impossibly tangled from the inside, but she helps you see the threads, trace them, and understand why each one pulls on the others. 


One of the things Cathy does so well is remind you how much you've actually learned — and how much there still is to learn. Both of us are coming up on recertification this year (yes, already — we found an old episode in our archive of us talking about our first recertification and the time warp is real), and we're both still chasing CERPs and CEUs with zero signs of stopping.


This aftershow is us, Annie and Leah, processing what sparked for us and what we're taking back into the treatment room.


"It's hard to figure out what's going wrong if you don't know what's going right." 


In this episode we talk about:

  • Learning through touch (3:21)
  • Finding healthy baselines (7:40)
  • The importance of staying flexible in assessments (13:16)
  • Tools for oral function (15:15)

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Our next Deeper Dive is on working with Type A clients — and yes, if you practice in an urban or professional community, this is basically your entire caseload. We cannot wait. 



Links and Resources


Infant Assessment Tools Annie Uses


Craniosacral Therapy Training


IBCLC Recertification


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About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.


Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

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