In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss what Lessig has elsewhere described as Trumps strategy of extortion — illegal threats to force compliance by every institution that might resist him. (Plus a quick trip to Vietnam, and the promise of a brand new Trump resort!)

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Music:
Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions
Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions
Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions

Post-production:
Josh Elstro of Elstro Production


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