Ever wondered if you could be sleeping next to a psychopath... and not even know it? In this episode, I sit down with Paul Holes, (yes,THAT Paul Holes) the detective who cracked the Golden State Killer case. We dig into the scariest headlines lighting up the news right now: Hidden killers, the chilling Gabby Petito case, and how the seemingly "sweetest guy" could be hiding monstrous secrets. This one is heavy, raw, and so necessary for every woman who has ever questioned her gut, worried about control in her relationship, or just sensed something off but couldn’t put her finger on it.
Paul brings his decades of investigative expertise, dissecting red flags most of us miss. We break down Gabby Petito’s tragic story step-by-step, what domestic violence looks like in real life (NOT just in textbooks!), and why even women’s closest friends or the cops sometimes get manipulated. Plus, I’m joined by Nicole Schmidt, Gabby’s unbelievably strong mom, who shares what she wishes she saw sooner… and what every woman, mother, and friend needs to hear.
SHOWNOTES
Can you really be married to a psychopath and not know it?
How predators “pass” as normal & the Wild Bill Huff story
Gabby Petito case: setting the timeline and heartbreak
Evidence of emotional abuse — the “I’m sorry, it’s my OCD” pattern
The mistakes police made and what should’ve happened
Police protocols in domestic abuse: who gets arrested, who gets believed
How women can get help in domestic violence stops
Stat: 51% of women don’t even know they’re being controlled
Nicole Schmidt (Gabby’s mom) joins: how manipulation fooled everyone
The first red flags she missed: Gabby’s “I’m fine” mask, and the secret signals you need to look for
How criminality can run in families (and why you need to look at the family dynamic!)
Rex Heuermann (Gilgo Beach Killer): predator hiding in plain sight, luring victims online
Why “it couldn’t happen to me” is the most dangerous mindset
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