The 'Grand Plan' of the Pocognoli appointment and the Scots who need a move

Creator and host Andy Bargh welcomes former BBC broadcast journalist Thomas Mackintosh and Alan Risk from the Air Force Wan Twitter page.

SFA chief exec Ian Maxwell and chief football officer Craig Mulholland have delved into the appointment of 'Seb' Pocognoli while speaking to BBC Sportsound.

Lots of good chat, with talk of a 'gran plan', systematic change, opportunities for youngsters, the data behind the appointment and what makes this the right call.

The boys discuss the main talking points, especially with the big summit at the start of September. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices