When Jeff's father entered hospice, Jeff showed up with a plan to fix him. What actually healed them was jazz, touch, and surrender. In this episode, recorded live at The Kinn in Los Angeles, Jeff sits down with Dr. Zach Bush, a triple board-certified physician in internal medicine, endocrinology, and hospice care. They explore his new book, Biological Elegance, which unfolds through a dialogue with AI.

They get into the difference between curing and healing, why Zach believes there's no machine behind AI at all, and why the real danger isn't artificial intelligence but humans acting like machines.

Why humming is one of the most powerful ways to relieve acute pain, a lesson Zach learned from a hospice nurse

Jeff's story of his father's final week in hospice, and the difference between curing and healing

Zach's case that AI isn't a machine at all, and that the real danger is humans acting like machines

The "false solutions" of biohacking, crypto, and the conscious movement

The curative questions Zach believes medicine should be asking: where's your original wound, and what's your deepest fear?

This episode is for anyone who has sat at a loved one's bedside, feels uneasy about AI, or suspects that healing means more than fixing symptoms. Zach's new book, Biological Elegance: Unwitting the Devil, is available at zachbushmd.com.

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