Throughout history, people and communities have built close connections with the land. When we talk about soil — and about trying to “fix” soil —taking action can mean breaking or disrespecting those connections, good intentions or not. Lessons on environmental cooperation from a Marxist revolutionary, the Great Green Wall, and more.

Presented by Dan Crane Written by Ian Steadman & Eli Lee Sound design by Laura Irving

Made with the support of The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

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