The Avengers: Doomsday trailer has fans convinced there are two Doctor Dooms in this movie, and that one of them might not be Robert Downey Jr. at all. Frank and Squeaks break down the eye color, the two suits, and the Cillian Murphy voice theory, then look at what happens to Marvel when Kevin Feige's contract runs out in 2027.
From there it turns into a full state of the franchises. The Feige succession list runs from Brad Winderbaum to Louis D'Esposito to one genuine wild card pick, before Star Wars gets put on the table: the Ahsoka trailer, Thrawn's return, Starfighter, and whether the Rey movie ever actually happens. Then Pirates of the Caribbean, where Disney is reportedly writing two competing scripts, and Frank pitches the real seventeenth century pirate queen whose story would beat both of them. Plus a Dungeon Crawler Carl check-in and a Question of the Week about how you would prove someone is an alien.
- 0:00 Intro and BlizzCon Countdown
- 1:34 Question of the Week: How Do You Test for an Alien
- 3:16 The Two Doctor Dooms Theory
- 11:05 Who Replaces Kevin Feige in 2027
- 22:36 Star Wars Without the Skywalker Name
- 29:33 Ahsoka, Thrawn, and the Sequel Era Gaps
- 34:15 Pirates of the Caribbean and Its Two Competing Scripts
- 46:22 Dungeon Crawler Carl Check-In
Key takeaways:
- The two Doom theory rests on three small trailer details: the eyes reading green in one shot and closer to blue in another, two distinct suits, and a voice some fans think sounds more like Cillian Murphy than RDJ. There is precedent too, since dueling Dooms from different universes is the current main story in Marvel Rivals.
- Frank's argument for a recast is about longevity. RDJ's betrayal only works once as a surprise, so if Doom is meant to carry the MCU past Secret Wars, you need an actor you can keep around.
- The Feige succession shortlist: Brad Winderbaum brings television experience and would likely greenlight Midnight Sons immediately, Louis D'Esposito is the operations veteran who would need a creative partner like the Russos, and Frank's wild card is Iman Vellani, who is now writing comics for Marvel and Image.
- Both hosts want Star Wars to break from the Skywalker name completely, with Dave Filoni doing for the sequels what The Clone Wars did for the prequels. Frank also makes the case that Ahsoka, not Rey, is the real heir to the Anakin lineage.
- Disney has two Pirates scripts in play, one led by Margot Robbie as Red and one featuring younger versions of the original cast. Squeaks calls the Red version predictable, and Frank counters with Zheng Yi Sao, a real pirate commander the Chinese government eventually had to negotiate with instead of fight.
Frank: "I'd actually respect Marvel for keeping a secret for once."
Frank: "I've been hurt too many times by Kevin Feige."
Squeaks: "It's time to go away from the Skywalker in total."
Frank: "The true descendant to Anakin is not Rey. It's not even Luke. Frankly, it is Ahsoka."
Squeaks: "That's the same thing we see everywhere. Find something new."
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