Season 4, Episode 257
The Myth of Burnout (feat. Joey Haselmayer & Mike Sipple Jr.)
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Joey Haselmayer, CEO of The Living Room and a consumer researcher who studies behavior for some of the biggest brands on earth, joins Mike Sipple Jr. to ask a harder question than "how do you avoid burnout": what if burnout usually means you've lost sight of why you're doing the work at all.
In this episode:
- Why Joey believes true physical burnout is rare -- and what's actually driving most of what people call burnout
- How a "B race" or "C race" keeps a long training block from turning into exhaustion
- What 76 miles on his feet in a last-man-standing ultra taught him about the difference between mental and physical limits
- Why family businesses never get a clean "changing of the guard" moment, and what that costs successors
- The daily coffee ritual he and his wife have never automated -- and why that's the point
- Why "extreme ownership" breaks down the moment you try to apply it inside a marriage
- How imposter syndrome kept him playing it safe until ultrarunning proved he could handle more than he thought
- Why an annual retreat away from cell service does more for his leadership than any boardroom conversation
Timecodes:
03:27 - What years of consumer research have taught Joey about himself
06:17 - Why family business transitions never get a "changing of the guard" moment
24:15 - Redefining burnout: it's not exhaustion, it's losing sight of the vision
42:07 - Inside the 76-mile last-man-standing ultra that pushed him past his limit
56:07 - Running an event-space business through a pandemic that made gathering illegal
59:46 - What happens around a dinner table in Wyoming that never happens in a boardroom
Resources mentioned:
- The Living Room, Cincinnati (Norwood event space) https://talentmagnet.com/thelivingroom/
- Haselmayer Goods https://shoptheh.com/
- Refuge Foundation https://refugefoundation.org/
- Dappled Light https://www.dappledlightadventures.com
- Extreme Ownership https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs
- Good to Great by Jim Collins (the "hedgehog concept") https://a.co/d/02LltNDX
Links and Resources:
- Connect with Joey Haselmayer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyhaselmayer/
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