Episode 92: The Church and the Fiction Writer on the Ladder of Divine Ascent

Phil Klay is joined by Kathleen Kilcup, author of Between the Light and Me: A Memoir of Beauty and Violence, to discuss Flannery O'Connor's The Church and the Fiction Writer and the 12th century icon The Ladder of Divine Ascent

The Manifesto:
https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/1957/03/30/flannery-oconnor-church-fiction-writer-148496/

The Art:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent_(icon)#/media/File:The_Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent_Monastery_of_St_Catherine_Sinai_12th_century.jpg

Katie's memoir:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/between-the-light-and-me-kathleen-kilcup/1149674487?ean=9780802885272