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The ex-engineer who says sales beats product | George Kurdin (CEO, Monk)

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George was a professional poker player, then CEO of a company that sold to Logitech for around $100M, and now he’s the CEO of Monk, an AI company automating accounts receivable.

Monk is an API company solving the other side of the ledger from Ramp: getting B2B invoices paid. George gets candid about the go-to-market mistakes he made (“50 more than I expected”), why vertical companies win on in-person workshops, the proprietary “harness” that he argues is the real moat in applied AI, the extreme-accountability culture he runs with 16 people and almost no meetings, and his sharpest tactical advice on fundraising, websites, and co-founder relationships.

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Transcript:
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What you’ll learn:
- Why sales and marketing is “tier zero,” and why he used to believe the opposite (“if you build it, they will come” is wrong)
- Two lessons from pro poker that transfer to building: stay disciplined through variance, and adapt or get destroyed
- Why go-to-market has never been more nuanced, and why vertical companies are winning with in-person workshops and lunch-and-learns over cold email
- The pre-seed website bet: why spending big on a cohesive visual identity early lifted one company’s close rate ~50%
- The “harness” thesis: why owning your own evals, guardrails, and tests (not just calling the models) is the moat in applied AI
- How to run extreme accountability: everything in Slack, blameless retros, almost no meetings, 16 people
- Why they reverse-engineered into a huge-TAM problem on purpose (recruiting, and not getting disrupted by the frontier labs)
- Why hard ROI (dollars in your pocket) now beats “time savings” as an AI value prop
- Fundraising: compress the process to create FOMO, and why how you run the raise signals how you run the company
- Why the co-founder relationship matters more than the idea, and how to invest in it like a marriage

George, Co-Founder and CEO at Monk
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgekurdin
Monk: https://monk.com/

Sophie Buonassisi:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
X: https://x.com/sophiebuona

About the guest: George is the co-founder and CEO of Monk, an API company that automates accounts receivable (collections and cash application) for B2B businesses using AI. He was previously CEO of Streamlabs, which sold to Logitech (reported around $100M) in 2019, and before his operating career he was a professional poker player for about five years. Monk is based in New York and has raised roughly $28M, including a Series A. His co-founder is Joe.

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