Justin catches up with his old internet friend Paul Jarvis. Today, Paul co-founded Fathom Analytics with Jack Ellis: a simple alternative to Google Analytics. Paul is also the author of the book "Company of One," which has influenced a whole generation of indie entrepreneurs (and has been reviewed by Cal Newport, Chris Guillebeau, Ben Chestnut, Tiago Forte, and more). Previously, Justin and Paul did a weekly mastermind, where they supported and encouraged each other around our indie businesses. They decided to do a catch-up call and recorded it so you could listen in. 👍

Highlights:

  • (00:10) - Intro

(02:20) - Being off the internet

(03:58) - What's a typical day for Paul?

(06:21) - Looking back at our Mastermind call

(08:08) - There's no beginning and no end

(10:36) - Things that are out of your control affect your business

(13:08) - Does Justin's surfing metaphor make sense to a surfer?

(16:11) - How would you start an indie business in 2023?

(22:05) - You've got to get in motion

(25:08) - Using products in your category for a long time

(27:53) - Is there still any room in Saas?

(31:56) - The act of making the bet

(38:45) - Is freelancing still viable in 2023?

(42:55) - Company design is lifestyle design

(45:00) - Worrying about being stagnant

(47:20) - How do you handle customer feature requests?

(52:08) - It's ok to be late to a shift in the market

(58:24) - Caring is an indie advantage

(01:05:05) - Collaboration is what gets us anywhere

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