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Pirates, mermaids, sea witches, and a slow-burn enemies-to-lovers romance — this episode has everything.

Leslie Vedder joins us to talk about The Siren's Kiss, a sapphic fantasy romance she describes as Pirates of the Caribbean meets The Little Mermaid, following a cursed pirate and a fierce mermaid who team up to take down ancient sea gods. We dig into her love of anime and manga, her upcoming graphic novel, and get five (okay, six) can't-miss pirate and fantasy-romance recommendations for your TBR.

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⏱️ Timestamps

  • [00:00] Welcome back Leslie Vedder
  • [00:30] What she's been up to since her debut trilogy
  • [01:00] Elevator pitch for The Siren's Kiss
  • [01:30] Sapphic pirates and badass female pirate captains
  • [02:00] Pirate history research and the reality behind the myth
  • [03:30] Anime and manga influence on her writing
  • [05:00] Upcoming sapphic Robin Hood graphic novel ⚠️ genre departure
  • [07:00] Book recommendations: pirates and mermaids
  • [10:30] Where to find Leslie online


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