Lisa Messenger is back for second time on the podcast. In this one we skip the origin story and go straight to where she is now: no staff, new revenue streams, two books, a baby on the way and a completely reimagined Collective.

Lisa says she's become a beginner again at four things in three years. Motherhood, AI, fiction and retreats. None of them existed in her business before. We get into why she walked away from a business moving 100,000 units a month, and what she built in its place.

In this episode:

  • Why Lisa shut down a huge revenue business she hated running, and how she replaced the income
  • Tens of millions in revenue and zero profit, and what she does differently now
  • Running a business with zero staff and a co-founder, and what AI does instead of a team
  • Becoming a certified prompt engineer 23 years into business, and the simple exercise she used to explain AI to her 82 year old mum
  • What she's seeing at her retreats after 28 rounds, including who's still resisting AI and who's flying
  • The new Collective membership, the rooms model, and her first public word on bringing print back
  • Writing fiction badly, learning the craft, and how Matchstick came out of it

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