In this episode, I’m talking with Carrianne Leung about writing when the world feels brutal, and she makes the striking case that despair can be as generative as hope.


We talk about Carrianne’s new novel, Wonderland Road, the years of persistence it took her to write it, and what it means to live without turning away from grief, genocide, climate crisis, and uncertainty.


We also talk about building neighbourhoods where there are no minor characters, and making place in writing feel alive. Carrianne leaves us with a practical invitation to help us write more grounded settings.


Find Carrianne on Substack and Instagram.

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