We talk to national security journalist and comic book writer Spencer Ackerman about 25 years of the War on Terror, its wide-ranging impact, Bush era liberalism, the Iran War, writing for Marvel and more. But first, the country tune sweeping "America B."

Read Spencer's journalism:

https://www.forever-wars.com/ + https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622555/reign-of-terror-by-spencer-ackerman/

Pre-order No One Escapes the Dialectic:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/856943/no-one-escapes-the-dialectic-1-by-spencer-ackerman/

Seasons of Fury, Rozina Ali's book Spencer mentioned:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672414/seasons-of-fury-by-rozina-ali/

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