In this episode, Raelan Agle shares what she's learned from thousands of hours of interviews with chronic symptom experts and people around the world who have made full recoveries. Together, she and Christie examine why mindbody approaches to healing are so often a last resort — and what needs to change to make them a mainstay of chronic pain care. For anyone still searching for answers, this conversation offers both a clearer map and a reason to keep going.

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