Retirement isn't simply the end of a career—it can be the beginning of a profound personal transformation.

In this episode of On the Brink, Andi Simon welcomes transformational facilitator Leslie Traub for a thoughtful conversation about identity, purpose, and life's "liminal spaces"—those uncertain moments between who we've been and who we're becoming.

Drawing on decades of leadership development and coaching, Leslie explains why so many people struggle with transitions, how external achievement can give way to deeper purpose, and why learning to embrace uncertainty opens the door to growth. Whether you're approaching retirement, experiencing an unexpected career change, or simply asking "What's next?", this conversation offers wisdom, encouragement, and practical insights for designing a meaningful next chapter.

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Together we can continue to see, feel, and think in new ways.

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