In yet another delightful conversation with Adam Engst, he fires up the WABAC machine and walks us through his journey to never successfully become a programmer. Two periods in time allowed him to unleash his creativity: HyperCard in the 1980s and today with AI-assisted programming.

The basis for the conversation was his article on TidBITS titled Decades After HyperCard, AI Is Democratizing Development Again.

Read an unedited, auto-generated transcript with chapter marks: CCATP_2026_08_27

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