The Matts consider the violent protests sweeping the continent and try to understand where it is coming from and what it signifies. Could they spread here? What can progressive governments do to stop them? Is Andy Burnham's approach any different to Emmanuel Macron’s?
Tickets are still available for Alastair Campbell and Mishal Hussain at London's Cadogan Hall on October 22 here
Podden och tillhörande omslagsbild på den här sidan tillhör
The New World. Innehållet i podden är skapat av The New World och inte av,
eller tillsammans med, Poddtoppen.