Tyson Yunkaporta is an Australian academic, arts critic, researcher, and member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He recently started the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, Australia, which is focused on applying Indigenous thinking to issues that complexity scientists and technologists are currently working on across domains including economics, governance, evolutionary dynamics, cognition, and the environment. Tyson is also the author of the world-view reconfiguring book 'Sand Talk' which served as the basis of our conversation. In the book, Tyson explores our global systems from an Aboriginal perspective and how this viewpoint could help us resolve some of the complex sustainability issues facing our world.

In our conversation we cover:

  • The indigenous notion of story and the problem with the narrative at the heart of Western civilisation
  • The value in true diversity, identity, and place
  • Violence and the need for its integration in society
  • Why instead of pursuing growth we should seek 'increase'
  • The need for humanity to retake our place as custodians of the land we're connected to.

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