In this very special and extended episode, I sit down with my friend, John Davison, who is a graduate of the Bethel Supernatural School of Ministry, to discuss our experiences in neo-charismatic culture. We talk about what drew us in and the moments that slowly woke us up and led us out. Our goal here is not another angry exposé. We want listeners who still have family or friends inside these circles to engage with compassion, language, and a posture that actually helps people rather than driving them deeper into defensiveness. If you were there, if you loved it, or if you love someone who is still there, this is for you.

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