While the podcast team is taking a Radical Sabbatical, Kim is interviewing authors of the books that have had a big impact on her in the past two years.
In this episode, Kim Scott speaks with Angela Duckworth. Her first book Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance, is a #1 New York Times bestseller. Her second book is Situated: Find the People and Places That Bring Out Your Best.
In this conversation, Kim interviews Angela about her new book, 'Situated.' They explore a deceptively simple three-box model that explains all of human behavior. Angela emphasizes the power of environment in shaping our thoughts and leading us to–or away from–the results we want. She and Kim discuss the limitations of willpower. Angela describes the two key ingredients of a good situation: challenge and support. Kim and Angela explore why it is important to seek managers and peers who both challenge and support us. They discuss the importance of feedback and why Ruinous Empathy is so damaging to both personal and professional growth. If you’re looking for one thing you can control to get better situated, Angela shares some practical advice on curating your personal space to foster positive habits and growth.
Guest Background: Prof. Angela Duckworth, PhD, is the Rosa Lee and Egbert Chang Professor at the University of Pennsylvania and faculty co-director of the Penn-Wharton Behavior Change for Good Initiative.
Prior to her career in research, Angela founded an academic enrichment program for low-income children that was profiled as a Harvard Kennedy School case study and today serves hundreds of students each year. She has also been a McKinsey management consultant and a math and science teacher at public schools in New York City, San Francisco, and Philadelphia. Angela co-founded Character Lab, a nonprofit dedicated to advancing scientific insights that help children thrive.
Angela completed her undergraduate degree in Advanced Studies Neurobiology at Harvard, graduating magna cum laude. With the support of a Marshall Scholarship, she completed an MSc with Distinction in Neuroscience from Oxford University. She completed her PhD in Psychology as a National Science Foundation Graduate Fellow at the University of Pennsylvania.
Angela's TED talk is among the most viewed of all time.
CHAPTERS
(00:00) Introduction to Radical Sabbatical and Angela Duckworth's New Book
(03:23) The Snorkeling Incident: A Metaphor for Situational Awareness
(05:58) Finding Your Best Situations: The Power of Environment
(08:31) The Three Boxes Model: Understanding Behavior and Thoughts
(11:13) The Role of Situations in Shaping Our Thoughts
(14:16) Changing Your Situation vs. Changing Your Thoughts
(17:10) The Limitations of Willpower and Self-Control
(20:13) The Quest for Control: Understanding Human Nature
(23:15) Creating Supportive and Challenging Situations
(27:11) Understanding Radical Candor
(32:56) Navigating Ruinous Empathy
(33:19) The Dilemma of Short-Term Comfort vs Long-Term Growth
(34:30) Feeding the Good Wolf: A Metaphor for Growth
(36:40) Economic Disparities and Their Impact
(39:23) Agency and the Power of Choice
(43:09) Curating Your Personal Space for Better Outcomes
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