"Ireland’s child protection system is a high-stakes game of Jenga", those were the words of Sinéad O'Sullivan in today's Irish Times.

But, what are we seeing at a ground level in our courts as a direct result of our systems failings in child protection?

Joining Ciara to discuss this is Kitty Holland, Social Affairs Correspondent of The Irish Times.

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