My guest today is Kareem Amin, co-founder and CEO of Clay. Clay has become one of the fastest-growing software companies of the last few years, valued at over four billion dollars. It helps companies find their best customers and reach them at scale.

But this conversation is about a lot more than Clay. Kareem is one of the most original thinkers I know. 

We talk about the statues he keeps at the center of how he runs Clay — truth, justice, and courage — and what those words demand of him in practice. We talk about risk, ambition, and what he learned about both on a ten-day silent meditation retreat. 

I've had a lot of conversations with Kareem over the years. This is one I'll remember. Please enjoy this unique conversation with Kareem Amin.

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. 

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Timestamps:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best

(00:02:29) Kareem Amin

(00:03:07) Clay's Origin

(00:10:50) Truth, Courage and Justice

(00:16:09) Adulation

(00:18:28) Risk, Courage & Self-Respect

(00:21:14) Jony Ive & Steve Jobs

(00:21:42) Role of Introspection

(00:23:08) Lack to Wholeness

(00:27:27) The Day Five Insight

(00:29:57) Running a Startup Unusually

(00:34:41) Learning from Magicians

(00:36:27) Music's Role in Your Life

(00:39:38) Making People Feel Something New

(00:41:20) Vision in Company Building

(00:44:29) Wealth & What It's Taught You

(00:47:40) All Problems Are Communication Problems

(00:52:14) Death Doula & Scaling

(00:55:06) The Kindest Thing

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