Wrap Up 1: A New Lens

If you try to understand why someone did something terrible, are you excusing it? Matthew Fox and co-host Paul Hoppe, a poker player and writer, look back on what more than 400 episodes have taught them and build a working framework for heroes, anti-heroes, villains, and anti-villains. Killmonger, Karli Morgenthau, Anakin Skywalker, and Finn all get run through it.Matthew traces the distance between “A New Hope” and “Andor,” where the rebellion includes thieves and Luthen calls himself a moral monster. Paul tells a Roger Clemens story about refusing to judge a life you haven’t lived, then pushes back when Matthew blames systems over individuals in “The Wire.” Underneath all of it sits one uncomfortable question: how sure are you that you wouldn’t have made Anakin’s choice?

• Full show notes and resources: https://trustory.fm/superheroethics/wrap-up-1-a-new-lens/

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