The conversation began with these questions: How do historical harms and abuses of the state and the medical industrial complex elevate the ways in which communities are criminalized? What are the historical roots and wounds of disease-based capitalism  in the U.S.? What has community dreamed and manifest based on these pasts? What do we need to know or pay attention to as this disease- and disaster-based economy uses this pandemic to fuel policing, surveillance, and eugenic ideas? To what end will COVID19 be used by the state against marginalized communities?

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This episode is part of a series in collaboration with Cara Page, Susan Raffo and Anjali Taneja. Learn more about their work at Healing Histories: Disrupting the Medical Industrial Complex. Editing by Wazi Maret www.wazimaret.com, transcription support by Kolenge Fonge and music by Abhimanyu Janamanchi.

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