What does it look like when God completely strips away your professional identity to prepare you for His mission? In this episode, host Molly Ruch sits down with Fr. Chad and Kirstin Magnuson, co-planters of Church of the Incarnation in Appleton, Wisconsin. From an unexpected pastoral call overlooking the ocean to identical prophetic visions on an Easter Sunday, Chad and Kirstin share their remarkable transition from a comfortable life in academia and therapy to the unpredictable world of church planting. They dive into the reality of a multi-year discernment journey, the intense vulnerability of a planting residency, and why the hard seasons of "humble submission under godly authority" and waiting are actually necessary gifts for your future congregation.
Some of what you'll hear in this episode:
• The Vulnerability of a Residency: How transitioning from a university professor to a church intern intentionally stripped away professional identity, forcing a deeper reliance on value found solely in Jesus.
• Discerning the Demographics vs. The Heart: Moving past mere demographic cost-benefit analyses on paper to engaging in prayer walks, fasting, and developing a gut-level compassion for nominal believers.
• The Blessing of Godly Authority: Embracing a posture of humble submission under bishops and canons, and recognizing why a season of waiting is a strategic gift rather than wasted time.
• Engaging the Whole Family in Kingdom Risk: Navigating a major relocation by involving young children in discernment, prayer, and witnessing God’s financial provision firsthand.
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