Ryder and Ben discuss podcasts they love, lessons they learned when deciding whether to come on Young Life staff or not (4:45), and most importantly, they interact with a "sneaky" survey that Ben planted all over a recent Young Life training he was at to find out what people really thought about their jobs (18:00). Its an unofficial engagement survey, and we discuss it On the Frontier.

Special thanks to our wonderful friends who answered their phone ;)

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