Ep 207 — White Supremacy and Religion, Conflict is of the Devil | The Order

Today we're talking about white supremacy and how attractive the movement is to members of high control religions. We also discuss what we can do to combat the white supremacist movement. Then we discuss the 2024 movie The Order, a true story about the violent white supremacist movement started by Robert Mathews in the mid 1980's. Following that, we cover some excellent news about NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani funding the NYC public school system with $67.5M for special education classes after the federal government cut funding. Enjoy! 

Show Notes: 

Domestic Threat: White Supremacy Extremism: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/domestic-threat 

White Supremacist Ideas Have Historical Roots in U.S. Christianity: https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/883115867/white-supremacist-ideas-have-historical-roots-in-u-s-christianity 

Children's Defense Fund Condemnation of White Supremacy: https://www.childrensdefense.org/blog/condemnation-of-white-supremacy/ 

White Supremacy Culture Characteristics: https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/characteristics.html 

Building Resilient Organizations: https://forgeorganizing.org/article/building-resilient-organizations/ 

A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture: https://prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/ 

Mapping Christian Nationalism Across the 50 States: Insights from PRRI's 2025 American Values Atlas: https://prri.org/research/mapping-christian-nationalism-across-the-50-states-insights-from-prris-2025-american-values-atlas/ 

Thornwell's Inaugural Address of the COnfederate Presbyterian Church: https://allkirk.net/2019/04/01/thornwells-inaugural-address-of-the-confederate-presbyterian-church/ 

White nationalism remains major concern for voters of color: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/white-nationalism-remains-major-concern-for-voters-of-color-and-appears-to-be-connected-ideologically-to-the-growing-christian-nationalism-movement/ 

Great Replacement Theory: Here's what Jews need to know about white supremacy: https://www.ajc.org/news/great-replacement-theory-heres-what-jews-need-to-know-about-white-supremacy 

Holy Hate: The Far Right's Radicalization of Religion: https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/holy-hate-far-rights-radicalization-religion/ 

New Hate and Old: The Changing Face of American White Supremacy: https://www.adl.org/new-hate-and-old-the-changing-face-of-american-white-supremacy-executive-summary 

Syd Lieberman: The Day the Nazis Came:  https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/syd-liebermans-storytelling-po-166599/episodes/the-day-the-nazis-came-7270789 

MOGP: The Order (2024):  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26625693/?ref_=nm_knf_t_1 

Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-order-2024 

WIRED The Real Story of The Order: https://www.wired.com/story/real-story-the-order-fbi-movie-bob-mathews/

The Order: Inside America's Racist Underground, by Kevin Flynn and Gary Gerhardt 

Happy News: Mamdani, NYC public schools invest $67.5M in special education amid federal budget cuts: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/new-york-city-special-education-expansion 

Other Appearances: Chris Shelton had us back on! Speaking of Cults: The Violent and Horrible Origin Story of Mormonism: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/the-women-who-wouldnt-let-climate-data-disappear 

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