Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Wajahat Ali, best-selling author, columnist, and political commentator. Join us as we discuss masculinity and emotion, how fatherhood impacts political choices, why humor is a key to defeating fascism, and how joy and faith play a role in future building. 

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