Ryan Hawk has interviewed over 700 high-performing leaders on The Learning Leader Show. In his new book, The Price of Becoming, he breaks down what it actually costs to become the best version of yourself, and why the people who sustain excellence over time never let themselves feel like they've arrived.
In this conversation, Ryan and John talk about:
Why "you've never arrived, you're always becoming" changed how Ryan thinks about success
The three questions Ryan asks himself every night to force real progress
How Dave Matthews built one of the most enduring bands in music by refusing to be the most talented person in the room
Why sustained excellence often comes at the cost of feeling fully content
The power of "following your curiosity and obsessions with great rigor"
How to celebrate wins at work without losing your edge
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