This episode, the return of BFF: Beyond Fires and Floods—our extended series on Indigenous climate narratives rooted in a 3-day gathering at UBC of journalists, scholars and experts in late 2025. An event co-convened by MEDIA INDIGENA regular Candis Callison and host/producer Rick Harp, so far we've shared its first two days of discussion. And with one still to come, this episode is about something that's always nagged at us: the fact long-time roundtabler Ken Williams wasn't able to be at BFF. So we came up with the next best thing, a check-in with the man himself about what he's heard so far, and what he might've said had he been there.

// CREDITS: Our intro/extro theme is 'nesting' by birocratic; 'Cloud Seven' by Joseph Sacco (CC-BY); 'Pink Shores' via ZapSplat.com

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