This week, Lydia and Thomas Smith from the Where There's Woke podcast join us to break down a movie that horror lovers assure us -- against all evidence -- is a modern masterpiece. The Conjuring is a film that launched a nearly MCU-level franchise worth nearly three billion dollars, all of which launders the historical reputation of some very unsavory grifters. But there's jump scares.

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