There's a few tangents on this podcast, and it is the off season so, in case you only want the rugby chatter:

0 - 7 minutes - JB has Covid, the content of his freezer and Phil's love of excessively smelly Scandinavian fish

7 - 16 minutes - Phil has a game of Guess Who (the rugby players he spotted were)

16 - 60 minutes - the week in rugby. Rugby Championship. Finn Russell a big money target and speaking out on Lions tactics. Plus, Sam Warburton's comments about the future of rugby.

60 - 90 minutes - Premiership Profile we look ahead to the forthcoming season for Saracens and Worcester (the 1st 2 clubs we cover


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