The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Alex Cranz, and Tom Warren discuss the reviews of the iPhone 13/iPhone 13 Pro and the many new devices Microsoft announced at their Surface event this week.

Further reading:

iPhone 13 review: yep, bigger batteries are better

iPhone 13 Pro review: a better display, the best camera, and incredible battery life 

iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 review: foundational fixes 

iOS 15 is here, but we’re still waiting on a few new features

Apple updates macOS Safari with a new look, but you can turn off the big changes

EU proposes mandatory USB-C on all devices, including iPhones

Apple won’t let Fortnite back on iOS until the Epic v. Apple verdict is final

Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong at Apple, according to leaked memo

Microsoft’s fall Surface event: the 7 biggest announcements 

Microsoft announces Surface Pro 8 with bigger 13-inch 120Hz display and Thunderbolt

Surface Laptop Studio is Microsoft’s new powerful flagship laptop

Microsoft’s new Surface Duo 2 has all the features that were missing the first time around

Microsoft’s new Slim Pen 2 uses haptics to mimic the feeling of using a real pen

The Surface Pro X gets a Wi-Fi-only version

The Surface Go 3 gets new Intel processors

Microsoft’s new mouse has a shell that’s 20 percent recycled ocean plastic

Surface Adaptive Kit makes Microsoft’s laptops more accessible

Microsoft Surface Pro 8 hands-on: the one we’ve waited for

Microsoft Surface Duo 2 hands-on: once more, with cameras

Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio hands-on: one weird, powerful computer 

The Surface Laptop Studio isn’t as original as Microsoft would have you believe

Kids who grew up with search engines could change STEM education forever

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