DEI Isn’t Enough; Companies Need Anti-Racist Leadership | HBR IdeaCast

8 Feb 2023

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Over the past few years in the United States, we’ve seen some horrific examples of racism seize the public consciousness. Amid all these tragedies – and the protests that followed – U.S. business leaders promised they would do their part to fight the problem, making workplaces more diverse, equitable and inclusive. But now it’s time to go a step further, say James White and Krista White, father-and-daughter authors of the new book, Anti-Racist Leadership: How to Transform Corporate Culture in a Race-Conscious Worlds. They share their own experiences as Black Americans in the workplace and lessons from James’ time as CEO of Jamba Juice. And they offer advice on how corporate leaders can promote lasting change in their own organizations and society at large.

This episode originally aired on HBR IdeaCast on March 15, 2022.

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Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 1:49 – James’ and Krista’s Careers Shaped Their Perspectives 5:03 – Making Spaces Welcoming for People of Color 8:07 – Defining Anti-Racist Leadership 9:55 – Why Leaders at Every Level Must Take Initiative 13:15 – Which Metrics Matter 18:18 - Younger Generations Making Permanent Change 23:06 – Encountering Resistance to Change 28:48 - Outro

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