Magician, comedian, and actor Penn Jillette has been casting spells on audiences for decades, but was his time on season six of Dancing with the Stars magical?

Penn tells Cheryl why he feels DWTS was one of the most manipulative shows he's ever been on . . . and he was on Celebrity Apprentice twice! What he found unsavory, his only regret, what it was like behind-the-scenes before their dances, his thoughts on Tom Bergeron and the judges, and Penn turns the tables on Cheryl!

Penn also talks about his CW show, 'Penn & Teller: Fool Us,' and being one the longest-running headliners in Vegas history! For more information on Penn & Teller, visit pennandteller.com.

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