Rylan sits down with Big Zuu to talk about his unique rise to fame - from rapper extraordinaire to double BAFTA award-winning TV presenter. They discuss making grime mainstream alongside Stormzy, Dave and AJ Tracey, his viral BAFTA acceptance speech for 'Big Zuu's Big Eats' and dealing with classicism in the TV industry.

Rylan explores the good, the bad and the ugly of being thrust into the spotlight - with those who've lived to tell the tale.

Host: Rylan

Assistant Producer: Satema Tarawally

Edit Producer: Katie Grant

Producer: Millie Chu

Production Manager: Francesca Bassett

Executive Producers: Barnaby Coughlin and Arron Fellows

Music: Miguel d'Oliveira

Assistant Commissioner: Will Drysdale

Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A Mindhouse production for BBC Sounds

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