After years of observing the conflict between advocates for trans rights and women’s rights, J.K. Rowling weighs in.

Produced by Andy Mills, Matthew Boll, and Megan Phelps-Roper, with special thanks to Candace Mittel Kahn and Emily Yoffe.

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