Jon Herold and Zak Paine hit a genuine milestone tonight, and Jon celebrates the 200th episode the only way he knows how, with an incredibly deep dive into a man most people have never heard of. Otis T. Carr claimed to have built and patented a working flying saucer back in the 1950s, and with the help of his self described "plucky" assistant Ralph Ring, he spent years chasing government approval, media attention, and eventually a very public unraveling.
Expect rare archival footage, an actual interview with Ralph Ring himself, patent history, run ins with the SEC, and a fascinating look at how Carr basically ran his own proto version of the very kind of late night radio and call in show that Jon and Zak do today. It's part biography, part cautionary tale, and part genuine mystery about what this guy actually built.
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